Last Updated on January 30, 2023 by Defy Help
Update 2023 on Maintaining Wood and Deck Defy Stains
How to Maintain for Defy Stains? We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
Prepping Help for Defy Maintenance Coats
With any type of wood stain, maintenance is essential for continuing, lasting results. All wood stains will eventually begin to fade as graying occurs. With Defy Wood Stain’s VOC compliant formula maintenance is easier, less time-consuming, and effective.
To maintain wood that is stained with Defy Wood Stains occasionally clean the surface with a mild detergent and water. This will normally restore stained surfaces back to their original appearance. If the wood has begun to fade, a light maintenance coat of Defy Stain is recommended for maximum protection.
How to Maintain Defy Stains
Test to see if the wood surface has weathered sufficiently enough to receive a maintenance stain coat by sprinkling a few drops of water onto the surface. If the water easily absorbs into the wood within a few seconds, the wood has weathered enough to apply a maintenance coat of Defy Stain.
To apply Defy maintenance coats, first clean the wood lightly with Defy Wood Cleaner and a scrub brush or pressure washer. For the best results do not try to remove the existing Defy Stain. Clean only to remove other contaminants such as mold, mildew, dirt, and graying.
Follow Defy Wood Cleaner with an application of Defy Wood Brightener. After cleaning, the wood will appear dark, while it is still wet apply Defy Brightener to restore the look of the wood and expand the wood pores for better stain penetration. Allow the surface to dry for 48 hours then apply a maintenance coat of Defy Wood Stain per the original application instructions.
If the wood surface is allowed to weather too long, graying or significant darkening may occur. If cleaning and brightening will not remove the gray or darkened wood appearance, the stain should be removed completely using Defy Wood Stain Stripper and then brightened with Defy Wood Brightener before finally refinishing the surface with Defy Wood Stain according to the original stain application instructions.
Maybe 4 years ago I stained my deck with butternut. The next year, I cleaned it with Dawn liquid detergent per instructions from you and put down another coat. Last summer I did nothing as I thought it looked ok.
This year, I need to do something but not sure whether I need to strip and brighten or whether I can again simply clean with Dawn and put down another maintenance cost. The knots in the decking have faded and the most exposed portions are also badly faded and/or lost all color.
Post a couple of photos.
I tried to post pics last night and again today, both via my phone and my computer. I cannot get them to attach to this site no matter what I try. (Pics will download to email, FB, message, etc. but not here!) Is there a way to email to you?
The pictures size needs to be less than 3MB.
Ok…so here are the pics I took. (Figured out how to send them via my phone.) Hopefully this will help. Thanks.
We would suggest a strip and brighten for this deck for best results.
Hi Defy. Last summer, I re-stained my deck doing the entire process as recommended (sanded, cleaner, brightener, wet-on-wet stain). I thought I had evenly stained the deck but now see some bare streaks. I was hoping to simply do the maintenance coat this year. Now I’m concerned I need to start over. What do you think?
Just and FYI, sanding is not suggested unless absolutely needed (to remove a prior stain that could not be stripper) as it can close the pores of the wood, reducing the stain’s ability to soak in. If your sand for prep, then one coat of Defy is best, not two. This is the main reason you are having lifting issues as the stain was over applied and could not fully soak into the wood.
We would suggest just lightly touching up these bare spots this year and then do a full prep and stain next year.
Hi Defy. Life happened and I never was able to touch up the bare spots as recommended above. Getting ready to do a “full prep and stain” this year. To be sure I’m clear on what full prep and stain is, I have this basic process in mind in this order: wood cleaner, power wash, deck brightener, wet-on-wet stain. I will not sand as originally suggested, but 1) do I have the correct order, and 2) am I missing a step such as stain stripper?
Thanks for you help,
We would suggest to strip and brighten all and then apply the stain wet on wet. This will ensure an even application and proper penetration into the wood grain.
Today I cleaned and brighten my pressure treat pine. I has never been stained . It’s was installed 2 years ago. I have some areas that the algae did not come off. Will it be ok to stain over the algae? Could I use some other products like wet & forget before I stain? Will that interfere with the stain absorption?
No, you cannot apply another product on it before applying the Defy. Just stain it after it dries.
thanks for the QUICK response!
I put a very light coat of Driftwood Grey on my cedar deck last year – light enough that the color was barely showing. I prepped to do a maintenance coat this year to improve the stain performance and appearance.
After applying the cleaner, brushing removed large amounts of the old stain. There are still areas remaining that are loose and peeling. It’s almost as if the stain got drawn out of the wood, since the areas with stain on them now are a much deeper color than they were previously. I am able to remove the old stain in some areas by rubbing it with my foot or scratching at it with a fingernail.
Since the deck is now unevenly coated, and some areas are peeling, do I need to completely remove the old stain and start over? What happened?
Yes, remove all so it stains evenly. Sounds like you had issue with penetration last year. Could be how it was applied or new wood.
Hello. One year ago I cleaned my 10 year old deck with Defy cleaner and brightener and stained with Defy semi-transparent natural pine color. Unfortunately, when I applied the stain on the horizontal boards they only got one coat. It has faded quite a bit and ready for a maintenance coat.
My question is to what extent I need to clean it for the maintenance coat. I was hoping to be able to lightly use the cleaner over the whole space while getting the black mold spots that came back here and there.
In the first picture you can see where I cleaned and how much stain came off. The other pictures are what the rest of the deck looks like at the moment.
Can I apply a second coat once I have cleaned thoroughly if the remaining stain is spotty and will it dry well and even if the color isn’t even? Or do I need to strip the previous stain off and start all over.
Thanks for your insight!
You can use the cleaner as long as the prep is uniform when done. If not, then strip and brighten.
Thank you. Is the first picture what you would consider uniform prep?
It looks pretty uniform.
Initially stripped the penefin and used the hardwood product on our ipe deck. Has had one maintenance coat.
What is a good mild detergent to use between maintenance coats? TSP? Can I use the Defy wood cleaner for the maintenance cleaning and stop without brightening? If I use the Defy cleaner, then brightener, can I stop without staining? The deck looks great and water does not readily absorb in seconds but we live in Oregon on the rainy side of the Cascades and need to constantly remove the growing green stuff from ANYTHING outside.
Defy prep products should only be used when you plan on recoating, not general cleaning.
Stained our deck during the fall of last year with wet on wet coats. Looked Beautiful!!! Now there are spots throughout the deck where the stain appears to have “chipped” away but it’s not flaky; just bald spots. If that makes sense. How do I fix this? Will this occur every year?
That would have from over application to the point that the Defy did not fully soak in. DEFY is a penetrating stain but applied to think and it cannot fully penetrate, then you can have some wear. Best to prep again and apply just one light coat.
Hi, Red pine log cabin in Wisconsin. Applied Defy originally in 99/2000. Pressure washed and did maintenance coat of Defy in 08/09? Logs are aging beautifully. Planning to use Defy original again. Need prep advice.
Was going to carefully pressure wash again and let dry 2-3 days. Then spray on and brush in two wet/wet coats. Any opinions/advice on this plan? Much appreciated, thanks!
Use the Defy Wood Cleaner with your pressure washing. That will make it easier for you and it will clean the wood better.
I used defy about 2 years ago. It had a lot of sap (I assume…white residue) come up about 6 mos after I coated even though I waited 1.5 years to stain with defy butternut. In preparation to restain now 2 years later, I used the cleaner and brightener but still showed all the white spots. So I sanded off the white areas with 60 grit orbital and went over the rest of the 500 sq ft deck w/ a try to get it somewhat consistent and knock off any splinters/high edges. There was still white deep in some areas so I then used mineral spirits which looks like it worked to remove the white residue. MY QUESTION: Will the defy butternut applied wet on wet now end up looking uniform since some areas are bare wood and some still show some of the color of the old butternut. It looks so uneven right now, I’m worried a semitransparent stain will not look good. Wondering if I need to move to a semi solid???
You need to strip the old coating off now so the new coating applies evenly. Use the Defy Stain stripper and pressure washing to remove. Use the Defy Brightener after.
We put extreme stain on a new ( after 4 months of weathering) treated pine deck about 24 months ago. We need to recoat. I hand scrubbed a couple boards with cleaner and essentially all the stain color disappeared….it had begun to fade prior to cleaning. Should I pressure spray the entire deck (600sq ft.) and begin over with two wet on wet coats? Or should I gently clean to save as much old stain as possible. This deck is in the Texas sun.
Whit, at this point it would be best to remove all of the old stain/color and start over with a fresh and clean surface. This will ensure that everything will apply evenly.
Hi, I have two decks that I coated with Defy Epoxy clear sealer about two years ago. They look great and I am more than satisfied with the results. Looking at some of the flat surfaces, it appears a maintenance coat may be in order soon.
Can I apply a coat of Defy Extreme over the Defy Epoxy? I hope so, because according to the Defy Epoxy, the Defy Epoxy is no longer available in clear, and I really don’t want to go to a color.
You can apply the Defy Extreme Clear on top of the Defy UV Epoxy Clear.
How many maintenance coats I need (applied Defy 4 years ago, treated pine)?
How many gallons i need for overpainting 500 SF?
Jacob, two light coats wet on wet. 5 gallons should be enough. Make sure to prep well first.